Sola Scriptura??

I ran across this interesting article here. Check it out and let me know your thoughts.

    “If a teaching isn’t explicit in the Bible, then we don’t accept it as doctrine!” That belief, commonly known as sola scriptura, was a central component of all I believed as a Protestant. This bedrock Protestant teaching claims that Scripture alone is the sole rule of faith and morals for Christians. Diving deeper into its meaning to defend my Protestant faith against Catholicism about twenty years ago, I found that there was no uniform understanding of this teaching among Protestant pastors and no book I could read to get a better understanding of it.What role does tradition play? How explicit does something have to be in Scripture before it can be called doctrine? Does Scripture tell us what is absolutely essential for us to believe as Christians? How can we determine the canon using sola scriptura? All these questions and more pointed to the central question: Where is sola scriptura itself taught in the Bible?Most Protestants find it in 2 Timothy 3:16-17:

    All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
    The fact is that this passage (or any other) does not even hint at Scripture being the sole rule of faith. It says that Scripture is inspired and necessary—a rule of faith—but in no way does it teach that Scripture alone is all one needs to determine the truth about faith and morals in the Church. My attempt to defend this bedrock teaching of Protestantism led me to conclude that sola scriptura is unreasonable, unbiblical, and unworkable.(emphasis mine)

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32 thoughts on “Sola Scriptura??

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  2. O.k. so here it comes from a simple-minded, dumb, uneducated, theologically challenged Christian but I will try to be clear and succinct.

    The fact that there is no uniform understanding among protestant pastors and no book on the subject that you could use to get a better understanding is part of the falaciousness of your thinking. The only book you need is the one God gave us. And the only conclusion you can reach about the differing ideas of protestant pastors is that everyone has an opinion. But truth is not dependent on a consensus of opinions.

    I agree with you that II Tim 3:16-17 is not sufficient to prop up “sola scriptura.” The real questions you need to answer are these – Do you believe that God means what He says and says what He means? Can You depend on Him for Truth? Do you believe His Word? If any of the answers are NO, then you are going to be really frustrated and messed up.

    All of this settles in my mind on one simple concept – Final Authority. God has spoken and His Word is the final authority. You can see that everywhere in Scripture when God speaks in absolute, unarguable, and authoritative terms like, “I Am the Lord,” “Thou shalt not,” and “The Word of the Lord came…”

    In the garden, He said to Adam, “Do NOT eat of this tree or you will die. That sounds straight-forward and simple enough but then the serpent comes along and entices Eve into a discussion or dialogue about it. “Did God really say that? That doesn’t make logical sense. Surely He didn’t really mean that you would really die. The fruit looks so good and, after all, God created it; it can’t be that bad.” Between the serpent and Eve, they reached a reasoned consensus based on their opinions but it wasn’t what God said.

    Jesus similarly, when He was tempted in the wilderness, spoke in the same authoritative manner. He didn’t attempt to argue or reason with Satan; He simply said, “It is written.”

    There is a popular phrase that goes like this, “God said it; I believe it, and that settles it.” I would submit to you that, frankly, it doesn’t matter one bit whether I believe it. The fact is, God said it and that settles it. His Word is the final authority and He often doesn’t take the time to explain it or try to convince us about truth. He just declares it.

    So how does that play out practically in our lives? Here are a few random thoughts and I am sure, if you really want to, you can think of many more.

    Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me.” That sounds pretty final. There is no other way. It really doesn’t matter if you think Him not to be fair or reasonable about that.

    The Word of God declares, “There is none righteous; No not one.” and “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” So it really makes no difference if some of us want to believe that, somehow, there may be some exception to “All” by means of some kind of Immaculate conception. All means All. That’s all all means.

    On homosexuality, I have heard all kinds of arguments from people with different opinions about the same texts. But the Word of God is very clear; it is an abomination and a sin. Our opinions, objections, and arguments are irrelevant.

    Is there a second chance after death? God’s Word says, “It is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment.” That is unless we all agree otherwise by consensus, that there must be some kind of holding tank where we can be purged of our sins and prayed into heaven by our relatives.

    I really don’t have a problem with “final authority.” God is God; I’m not and frankly, He doesn’t much care how I feel about truth or whether I agree with Him. The bottom line is, “Thus saith the Lord.” You would be surprised at how simple the answers are when we stop trying to wrap our heads around tough theological, psychological or emotional questions and simply listen to the final, authoritive Word of God.

  3. This is article explains part of the the “Mountain of Truth”. Not every truth that exists in our world is explicitly present in the Bible.

    Rather, the Bible helps us to understand parts of the “Mountain of Truth” just as submitting to God’s order similarly does.

    For example, it is good and healthy for a woman to take vitamins when she is pregnant, yet nowhere do the scriptures describe the proper vitamin B6 intake. We trust the medical professionals to guide us in right nutrition.

    Another example is with husbands and wives. God has created order in the marriage, where women are to submit to their husbands as to the Lord. A woman is always protected if she submits to her husband. Now, because of sin and ignorance on the part of the man, she may not always be happy, but God calls us to holiness rather than happiness.

    The importance of order and hierarchy are clear in the stories throughout the Bible, and it is necessary for the Christian to follow God’s established order to be on the track for salvation.

    There is no individual salvation, but there certainly is individual damnation.

  4. As a child growing up in a non-religious home, I was given a copy of the Holy Bible by a relative.
    I started reading the Old Testament; the Scriptures I learned kept me from many mistakes that my friends made.
    As a grown woman, I can testify that not only are the Holy Scriptures true, and accurate, and the word of God, but they changed the life of not only me, but my family.
    Sola Scriptura?
    I wouldn’t do without them, no, not for anyone or any thing.

  5. OH, and he also has his own blog called “Always Ready”. Every now and again it is fun to ruffle his feathers, albeit in a nice brotherly sort of way. I noticed my friend Chris P has visited you. Would this be the esteemed Chris P who enjoys blubbering at me at CRN.info? Lucky you!

    jerry

  6. The longer I spend online the more I am convinced people simply cannot read. The author of this post and the author of the article questioning Sola Scriptura are two different people. That’s why it says, I ran across this interesting article…

  7. OP–What role does tradition play?

    EP–Why should it play any? For one thing, whose traditions? What traditions from what time? In other words, traditions are highly changable things. If you were to take the Gospel to, say, people who practive human sacrifices, would you accept any arguments on their part that their traditions of human sacrifice should be continued simply because it was part of their ‘traditional’ religious practices?

    OP–How explicit does something have to be in Scripture before it can be called doctrine?

    EP–Is this a weasel-out question, or what?

    No, seriously, once a question like this is asked, are we now free to think that no matter how explicet the Scriptures states something, it won’t matter?

    For example, the fact the the Bible clearly states the Christ was bodily raised from the dead, that many people saw the resurrected Christ, and the Paul states the if Christ was not raised then our faith is in vain and we are still in our sins, does not keep such people as Marcus Borg from saying that he believes that Christ was not raised from the dead, yet such a statement on his part doesn’t sway Diane Butler Bass from saying that he really does believe in Christ, despite what the Bible says to the contrary?

    http://emergentpillage.blogspot.com/2008/07/resistence-is-not-futile.html

    The Bible makes explicit statements about Christ’s resurrection. A man who blatantly speaks against those statements is still considered someone who believes in Christ. Unless you want to repudiate Butler Bass’ statement about Borg being a believer in Christ, your question is meaningless.

    OP–Does Scripture tell us what is absolutely essential for us to believe as Christians?

    EP–So how else are you going to know what to believe as a Christian? Through someone else’s say-so? Flip a coin? What until the Pope makes a statement about what you need to belief, then blindly follow it?

    Really, please explain to us what other foundation you want to build your faith on.

  8. Aren’t traditions completely man-made? Some “traditions” say we should eat our neighbors. I think I’ll stick with “In the beginning was the Word”.

  9. Wow, another person found himself siding with catholicism after a WHOLE two-year search for the truth resulting from studying a history of what ‘man’ has said and determined. Well, the god of this world blinds minds to the glorious light of the gospel and he evidently has patience and the care to wait even two years for an individual to finally ‘get it’. I never see this verse mentioned in these novel-sized sola scriptura diatribes: 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Well, where is that ‘word of truth’ to be studied and rightly divided? From the pope and his army of theologians? From a handful, all, or only highly recommended protestant/reformed bigshots? If we’re to be approved as a workman in God’s sight why is this verse never mentioned in these debates? Well, one reason is that the mentioned verse is rarely seen, read, or comprehended. The KJB has this verse written this way, while all the ‘modern’ bibles follow suit with the catholic manuscripts that dilute the verse so well that it can easily be debated and interpreted in various ways by folks. It’s no small wonder that catholics and protestants alike banter this topic over and over and over again. I have one source of truth — the preserved word of God. Preserved by God and NOT man.

  10. Jimmy,

    I think that a better way to work this problem would be ask if you believe in purgatory and if you believe that the Virgin Mary Co-Redemptrix with Jesus and our salvation was partly won by Mary through the suffering she experienced watching her son being crucified?

    Neither doctrine is supported in the Bible and both come to us via extra-biblical sources.

    If you do not believe in either of these doctrines then why do you reject them? What is your authority to do so?

  11. Ok…let me go on record as to say that I never mentioned that I agree with the author of this article…I happened to find it interesting.

    My Christianity is based on faith, not on reasoning, logic, research or tradition. I believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God. I believe that Jesus was crucified for my sins and rose from the tomb on the third day. I believe that there is only one way and that way is Jesus…because He said ‘I am the way, the truth’…’he who believes in me will not die’….’ if you have seen me, you have seen the father’ and many, many more.

    It is simply because I ‘choose’ to believe. Simply because He called, and I answered.

  12. Chris…I agree with you….that being said…then why do some put so much creedence into what Calvin said…or any of the other religious writers?

    Just a thought!

  13. Jimmy,

    Wow! That is a GREAT question Jimmy.

    I’ll give you my opinion on the matter but since it is only my opinion I would only consider it one perspective on the issue.

    I think the reason why people put so much credence in writers like Calvin, Luther, Warren, Hybels etc. is because we are looking for help in understanding the scriptures. The Bible can be a difficult book to wrestle with and there are some men who we look to for helping us better understand the Bible.

    Problems occur when people stop comparing what these men write to the word of God.

    Where the real theological battles occur is in interpreting the scriptures.

    As for myself, I am a Confessional Lutheran and would argue that anyone who has an interpretation of the scriptures that contradictions the Book of Concord is not correctly interpreting the Bible. That does not mean that I believe the Book of Concord is on par with scripture, that means that I believe that the Book of Concord is a correct interpretation of scripture. But if the Book of Concord contradicts the scriptures then it Book of Concord is wrong.

  14. Chris…very nicely done. I am in agreement with you.

    I would love for you to write a post defending Sola Scriptura here on Relevant Christian.

    I agree that today’s christians for the most part, are biblically illiterate, and a comprehensive post on this subject would be invaluable.

    Let me know if you would be interested.

  15. History reveals Roman Catholicism’s refute of Sola Scriptura ( Protestant Reformation, Council of Trent, Vatican I & II)

    What you see is what you get in Roman Catholicism, in word, deed and doctrine, albiet in opposition to Scripture. There is no doubt that R.C. denounces Sola Scriptura as heresy.

    That’s more than what can be said for modern evangelicalism. In today’s church, there are written statements of faith affirming Sola Scriptura. Yet, in practice, Evangelicalism denies Sola Scriptura by polluting church ministry with the man-centered, seeker sensitive, purpose driven, emergent, ecumenical and the mystical.

    Why? Because we do not believe the Bible alone can reach the culture. We don’t trust the foolishness of preaching the Gospel. We think the Gospel needs to be propped up or deconstructed to impact the culture.

    Roman Catholicism denounces Sola Scriptura in word, deed and doctrine.

    Modern Evangelicalism denounces Sola Scriptura with smoke and mirrors and the wisdom of the world.

    BTW, I am a friend of KS… 🙂

  16. Jim,

    Thanks for visiting. We won’t hold it against you for being a friend of KS. 🙂
    I have had the honor of speaking with KS and he seems to be a good man…I may not agree with his tactics, but he is still my brother in Christ.

    AS far as the smoke and mirrors of evangelicalism…can you expound on that please? What have you seen or heard first hand?

    Peace

  17. First Hand: Light comedy drama skits, ballet, circus elephant at a church in nearby town to open the worship service ( annual event ).

    On the web…the web sites of the big name folks like Ed Young, Jr ( giving out gas cards to promote church, driving cars on stage, etc.)

    Rock and roll bands with light shows, driving (and crashing dirt bikes on stage) demonstrating soccer moves on stage. Playing clips of major motion pictures on the jumbo screen.

    That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Visit Slice of Laodicea for more.
    http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?cat=15

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